In a message dated 12/11/2002 4:51:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, theotherjen8@yahoo.com writes: I most heartily recommend V. bracteata to all novices who are eager to grow something uniquely beautiful in their gardens! Makes a nice house/GH plant where it can't be grown outside. A potful of 3-4 year olds is just starting to bloom here, nicely shaded by Camellia oleifera. Mark Mazer Intarsia Ltd. Gaylordsville, CT 06755-0142 http://www.therapyshapes.com/ USDA Zone 5 Giant Schnauzer Rescue