In a message dated 12/18/2002 12:00:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, batlette@cox.net writes: This is very annoying as I have to clear the background of junk for 5 yards in every direction or the lense picks it up as well as the plant I am photographing. It also collects way too much light and on both cameras I have to keep One technique from film flower photographers is to stage your subject against a black velvet background. A simple frame can made from 1/2 inch CPVC plumbing pipe and unglued fittings. The cloth can be pinned, clipped or draped. A slit can be cut in the cloth through which a flower is placed. This can also help with exposure and focusing problems that occur with some digital cameras. Mark Mazer Intarsia Ltd. Gaylordsville, CT 06755-0142 http://www.therapyshapes.com/ USDA Zone 5 Giant Schnauzer Rescue