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The current Veranda magazine has an article (and wonderful photos) of several Frittilarias. Check it out. I was in awe of the opening photo of the green ones.

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Urceolina (Alberto Castillo)
2. Bulbocodium vernum (Judy Glattstein)
3. Re: Iris lazica x I. unguicularis (David Nicholson)
4. Re: Bulbocodium vernum (Alberto Castillo)
5. Narcissus miniatus (iain@auchgourishbotanicgarden.org)
6. Re: Bulbocodium vernum (gentiaan bulborum)
7. Re: Pancratium maritimum (Leo A. Martin)
8. Re: Narcissus miniatus (Harold Koopowitz)
9. Re: Iris lazica x I. unguicularis (Adam Fikso)
10. Re: Iris lazica x I. unguicularis (Adam Fikso)
11. Iris cretensis (James Waddick)
12. Re: Pancratium maritimum (gentiaan bulborum)
13. Re: Narcissus miniatus (gentiaan bulborum)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:23:19 +0000
From: Alberto Castillo <ezeizabotgard@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Urceolina
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Will have after flowering. Dry winter dormant.

"It does not have any leaves at this point."

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:43:55 -0500
From: Judy Glattstein <jgglatt@gmail.com>
Subject: [pbs] Bulbocodium vernum
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I've had this in my garden for more than a decade. Not as quick to make
offsets as some colchicums but over time does make a few. Planted
towards the bottom of a less than full sun slope with rather clay-ey
soil. Charming little harbinger of Spring.

Earlier names were Colchicum bulbocodium and Colchicum vernum

Does not this mean it was first included in colchicum, then split off,
and is now coming "home" again. Anyone who has looked at its little
underground bulbs can clearly see a similarity to those of colchicum. Is
there anything else that looks even somewhat the same?

Judy in overcast New jersey where any arriving precipitation will be rain

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:31:22 -0000
From: "David Nicholson" <d.avensis@virgin.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Iris lazica x I. unguicularis
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Although I'm further south and west than Brian, and nearer the coast, my
Iris lazica is in flower as it will be, hopefully, on and off until June/
July. Having said that my Iris unguicularis didn't flower at all this year
(possibly because our summer last year was one of the wettest and dullest on
record. Winter here has been a long one (and possibly hasn't finished yet).

My Narcissus 'February Gold', which normally flowers in the month true to
it's name, has only just budded and might well be beaten to the finishing
line by N. 'Topolino'.

I had a beautiful Iris graeberiana in full and majestic flower last year by
the end of March but this year is showing only a couple of inches of growth.

David Nicholson
in Devon, UK. Zone 9b (normally!!)

There is no simple answer to this question, other than it depends on the
weather. I have some lazica (of both species actually) at home now that
has not yet tried to flower, so hopefully will later this month or
next..........<<

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:59:13 +0000
From: Alberto Castillo <ezeizabotgard@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Bulbocodium vernum
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Merenderas do.

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:45:07 -0000
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Subject: [pbs] Narcissus miniatus
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I hope the following helps;

Narcissus minatus. Donn.-Morg., Koop. & Zoom (No valid publication date)

Holotype HNT
Collector ID Ref. HK11006
Locality: Spain, Cadiz, Los Barrios.

Ref. Daffodil and Tulip Year Book 2005-2006: 22: (19-25); Illustrations (1-3)

NB. In the apparent absence of a valid publication citation and publication date this taxon's name may be treated as nom illigit.

Knowing roughly this region it would be safe to assume that it is probably not hardy to any level of frost unless when resting underground and then only very modest low temperatures. Soil type as to probable pH etc not mentioned.
Regards, Iain

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:07:39 +0100
From: gentiaan bulborum <bulborum@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Bulbocodium vernum
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Merenderas do.

but the 6 petals are cut in to the bulb-base

Roland
bulborum@gmail.com

2010/3/10 Alberto Castillo <ezeizabotgard@hotmail.com>

Merenderas do.

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:33:25 -0800 (PST)
From: "Leo A. Martin" <leo@possi.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Pancratium maritimum
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I have 5 seedlings from bulb exchange seed. The seeds were strange black
things like shiny hats, very 3-dimensional and not flat like some
amaryllids. They're at least 5 years old and don't grow much. They
tolerate our winters just fine (minimums have been -8C / 15F) I bring the
pot into the house in the summer and keep it dry. I move the pot outside
and keep it moist for the winter.

Should I be fertilizing them much? I haven't.

This year the leaves that emerged were smaller than last years', but maybe
that is because I was late getting them out. Each plant makes only one
leaf each year.

Leo Martin
Phoenix Arizona USA

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:52:23 -0800
From: Harold Koopowitz <paph2@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Narcissus miniatus
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If you look at the inside page of the 2005-2006 yearbook you will see
it was published in 2005.
Harold Koopowitz

At 01:45 PM 3/10/2010, you wrote:

I hope the following helps;

Narcissus minatus. Donn.-Morg., Koop. & Zoom (No valid publication date)

Holotype HNT
Collector ID Ref. HK11006
Locality: Spain, Cadiz, Los Barrios.

Ref. Daffodil and Tulip Year Book 2005-2006: 22: (19-25); Illustrations (1-3)

NB. In the apparent absence of a valid publication citation and
publication date this taxon's name may be treated as nom illigit.

Knowing roughly this region it would be safe to assume that it is
probably not hardy to any level of frost unless when resting
underground and then only very modest low temperatures. Soil type as
to probable pH etc not mentioned.
Regards, Iain

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:08:31 -0600
From: "Adam Fikso" <adam14113@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Iris lazica x I. unguicularis
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These two irises are probably incompatible for any crossing.

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Subject: [pbs] Iris lazica x I. unguicularis

OK, I done the deed: Iris lazica was pollinated yesterday with pollen from
I. unguicularis. The reverse cross was not made because the flower of I.
unguicularis seemed to be past using for that purpose.

It occurred to me the other day that Iris unguicularis is virtually unique
among the irises I know for its prolonged season of bloom. Here flowers
appear over a five month period: does any other iris come even close?
Imagine a hardy garden iris with a five month season of bloom! Has anyone
ever attempted crosses of I. unguicularis with bearded irises? Imagine a
bearded iris which continually put up flowers over a five month period.
Those genes for prolonged blooming should not go to waste!

Does Iris lazica bloom over an extended season, or do the flowers come
mostly at once? The first two flowers to appear are fully formed now, and I
see more buds pushing up. Can anyone give me an idea how long this will
continue?

Jim McKenney

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:18:19 -0600
From: "Adam Fikso" <adam14113@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Iris lazica x I. unguicularis
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These two irises are most unlikely to yield any seed whatsoever. The
chromosome numbers are really incompatible. I. lazica has a 2n = 32. but
could be a tetraploid and unguicularis has a 2n of 40 or 50. I can't
imagine quite how a matchup could occur, Really odd linkages and matches
occur in some plant groups but I've not known this to occur in irises

Jim McKenney

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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:47:55 -0600
From: James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com>
Subject: [pbs] Iris cretensis
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Friends,

No mention has been made of Iris cretensis. This is closer to
I unguiculares, but has very fine foliage. Both species occur in some
of the same locations such as Crete. So if anyone is travelling there
(Tom !) it might be very interesting to look out for possible natural
hybrids. I. lazica has a disjunct distribution from I unguiculares.

I don't grow this, but it is said to be as hardy/tender as
unguiculares.

Best Jim W.
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:17:29 +0100
From: gentiaan bulborum <bulborum@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Pancratium maritimum
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Hallo Leo

Don't let it dry out completely roots should not dry out
sun-baked in summer
and feed normal it takes 6/7 years for flowering
but in not optimal conditions it can be 10 years

Roland
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2010/3/11 Leo A. Martin <leo@possi.org>

Should I be fertilizing them much? I haven't.

This year the leaves that emerged were smaller than last years', but maybe
that is because I was late getting them out. Each plant makes only one
leaf each year.

Leo Martin
Phoenix Arizona USA

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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:32:55 +0100
From: gentiaan bulborum <bulborum@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Narcissus miniatus
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Thanks Iain and Harold
Yes it a very helpful description
I will look this autumn if not some of my collections
are N.miniatus

Roland
bulborum@gmail.com

2010/3/11 Harold Koopowitz <paph2@earthlink.net>

If you look at the inside page of the 2005-2006 yearbook you will see
it was published in 2005.
Harold Koopowitz

At 01:45 PM 3/10/2010, you wrote:

I hope the following helps;

Narcissus minatus. Donn.-Morg., Koop. & Zoom (No valid publication date)

Holotype HNT
Collector ID Ref. HK11006
Locality: Spain, Cadiz, Los Barrios.

Ref. Daffodil and Tulip Year Book 2005-2006: 22: (19-25); Illustrations

(1-3)

NB. In the apparent absence of a valid publication citation and
publication date this taxon's name may be treated as nom illigit.

Knowing roughly this region it would be safe to assume that it is
probably not hardy to any level of frost unless when resting
underground and then only very modest low temperatures. Soil type as
to probable pH etc not mentioned.
Regards, Iain

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