This vendor sends fresh seed damp in sphagnum produced by crossing 2 superior forms: http://www.seedhunt.com/ Look under The Plantsman's pocket, short viability seeds. There are, of course, seeds of geophytes on list as well. Philesia is one of my favorite plants and is very easy to grow. It took me 10 years from seed to flower one, but now my plants are covered in flowers in fall. Martin