At 08:49 PM 9/7/2004 -0400, Ellen Hornig wrote: a drift of my fanciest silver-centered blue-leaved Arisaema consanguineum...something small scale to fill in there -perhaps Cyclamen coum, which, as Panayoti Kelaidis once pointed out to me, makes an excellent interplanting with late emerging arisaemas. Wow! Ellen, that sound like something worth the drive up to Oswego to see! But it probably won't work for me: Cyclamen coum rots here during the summer unless it has very sharp drainage (hardly what I think of as Arisaema conditions), and the forms of Arisaema consanguineum I have somehow seem ill at ease under my conditions - as if they were looking for a way out. On the other hand, in mentioning the Sedum you've touched on one of my current enthusiasms. For several years now I've been collecting Sedum of the pleuricaule-cauticola-lidakense (or whatever)-sieboldii-Vera Jameson-Bertram Anderson sorts. These plants, with their blue-gray foliage and pink and red flowers, are serenely harmonious with themselves, interesting early in the year before the new growth has grown out very much, and to my tastes very elegant in an understated way. And they would be ideal for use with big Colchicum (I have not done it yet). For small Colchicum there are several tiny blue foliaged sorts (as I recall, Alpine-L had a thread on this topic earlier this year). So thanks, Ellen, for pointing us in this direction. Jim McKenney jimmckenney@starpower.net Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where for years I wrote Sedum cauticolum, not realizing that cauticola was a noun with its own gender.