Welcome, Steve, from another Crinum addict. Tell us about your collection. I have an un-named pink (mis-named as Ellen Bosanquet) hybrid and a Louisiana garden variety bulbispermum blooming right now, with 'Catherine' due to open its first flowers momentarily. All these are in the ground here, more or less hardy. The 'Catherine' came from Roy Works in Tampa, FL, and the bulbispermum came from IBS SX seeds several years ago. Our thoughts and best wishes go out to our fellow bulb enthusiasts in Florida as Hurricane Frances bears down on them. Best regards, Jim Shields At 10:10 PM 9/2/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Steve wrote: > >My name is Steve and I'm a plantaholic. Actually I'm a crinumaholic. ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA