Dear Jim, So Jim why does Veronica Read prefer the name W. rayneri? Tsuh Yang says the correct name is Hippeastrum procerum. But the Worsleya list Lee referred to calls itself Worsleya procera which implies that at least the leader of the group or owner of the list is accepting the changed name. For those of us who are not on that list and not growing this plant and therefore not likely to join that list (and therefore unable to look at the pictures that are available to members only) will one of you who is a member tell us whether there is general agreement by those members about the name? Lee what are you calling your plant? Bill (Dijk) what do you call yours? The copied message from Alan Meerow ("Mabberly also needs to read Systematic Botany where the issue of whether Worsleya is closely related to Hippeastrum was (hopefully) put to rest by my and co-workers DNA studies!") is not helpful to those of us who have not read Systematic Botany and do not therefore know what the results of the DNA studies are. Can anyone please explain? If there is disagreement about this could we hear what each side is saying? Hoping to hear what people think and know about this, Mary Sue