But the convention will be over tomorrow! (not sent to the list.) Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold@nj.rr.com> wrote: Actually Rodger I think that they are real rats in the Washington palms in LA. Just read a study done by the NYC Dept. of pest control that the Bronx has 5 rats for every resident. Arnold New Jersey ( separated by a big river from the Bronx) _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php