Fw: [pbs] Alstroemeria key
Jamie (Sat, 18 Sep 2004 03:37:07 PDT)

Jane,

the post bounced back from PBS, so I'm trying again,
J.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie" <Jamievande@freenet.de>
To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [pbs] Alstroemeria key

Jane,

I know STIELTELLER only from the description of a blossom, where it refers
to an open-formed, flat blossom, much like a Tulipa or Calochortus opened
fully. A plate-formed blossom on a stem top! I think the term is a bit
archaic, as I've only seen it used once or twice as a generic.

As to ROT, it is generic. In German, the colour descriptions are a bit
different; ROSA is pale pink, PINK is deep pink (in the purple range).

Many

colours that are perceived as red are quite warm. I think that BLASSROT
would be a warm, medium pink to most, while HELLROT would be like cadmium
pale, in artists colours, sort of scarlet, like a Pelargonium. DUNKELROT
would be like a very ripe tomato, while KIRSCHROT would be a deep, cold,
crimson.

Hope this helps a bit,

Jamie V.
Cologne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jane McGary" <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 1:52 AM
Subject: [pbs] Alstroemeria key

I'm translating the key in Bayer's "The Genus Alstroemeria in Chile," a
copy of which Roy Sachs kindly lent me. I'll be glad to share the result
when it's done. I hope some member of this forum who knows both German

and

plants, the former at least better than I do, can help me with a couple

of

questions.

1. What does the word "Stielteller" mean? It is used in a compound
describing the shape of a flower. I know "Stiel" and "Teller," but not

the

compound.

2. Is the word "rot" 'red' used in German for a particular type of red,

at

least in relation to flowers? No alstroemerias are spectrum red, but

there

are many orange-reds and purple-reds. Bayer uses the compounds "hellrot"
'light red' and "blassrot" 'pale red'. Can you suggest familiar flowers
that would be described by these terms?

Thanks in advance,
Jane McGary

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