On Sep 16, 2004, at 3:19 PM, Mary Sue Ittner wrote: > Dear All, > > Some time ago I asked on this list whether the name on the wiki should > be Worsleya procera or Worsleya rayneri? I looked it up in IPNI and > both were recorded names and there was no mention of synonyms. W. > procera does have an earlier date. > > No one responded to my question. So I'll ask it again after I offer > congratulations to Lee on his blooming plant. Is there just one > species of this genus and should we have it listed as Worsleya procera > (syn. Worselya rayneri) instead of the other way around? > > We'd like to be giving out the most current information on the wiki > and this is not a plant I follow so appreciate help from those of you > who do. Thanks. > > Mary Sue > > Begin forwarded message: > From: "Glenn Callcott" <gcallcott@bigpond.com> > Date: May 3, 2002 5:34:25 AM PDT > To: <Worsleya_rayneri_growers@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [Worsleya_rayneri_growers] Worsleya procera > > This essay was written by David Mabberley who belongs to the > International Society of Plant Taxonomists (it may have another name) > and who has recently renamed the Worsleya. > > THE NAME OF THE BLUE AMARYLLIS, OR > WOSLEYA PROCERA RIDES AGAIN > > The blue amaryllis was first described as Amaryllis procera Duch. in > 1863. The generic name Worsleya was proposed for it by William Watson > in 1912, but not validly published then, though it was later used as a > subgeneric name in Amaryllis L. and first validly published as subg. > Worsleya Traub. Traub subsequently raised his subgenus to generic rank > as Worsleya (Traub) Traub (in Herbertia 10: 89, t. 246, 1944). > > In 1944, Traub also transferred Amaryllis procera Duch. to the new > genus making the name W. procera ('Duch.') Traub, the name first > suggested informally in 1912 and widely used since 1944. > > Subsequently, in 1949, Traub and Moldenke realised that Amaryllis > procera Duch. had been antedated by A. procera Salisb. (1796), the > name [actually a superfluous one!] for a completely unrelated plant > (apparently a species of Crinum). This meant that A. procera Duch. was > 'still-born', being a 'later homonym' and therefore an illegitimate > name. They therefore cast about for another name for the Worsleya and > chose the next-published in Amaryllis, A. rayneri Hook.f.., and made > the new name W. rayneri (Hook.f.) Traub and Moldenke, which has since > been followed by many. > > But they were wrong, as W. rayneri is an illegitimate substitution for > the original W. procera, which has therefore been restored by > Mabberley, Plant-book ed. 2, corr. reprint (1998), because they > overlooked the fact that the earliest validly published name is > Hippeastrum procerum Lem. (Ill. Horticole: t. 408, 1864), which > antedates A. rayneri, even though they included it in the synonyms. > > Hippeastrum procerum Lem. is based on A. procera Duch., not A. procera > Salisb., but as the first was illegitimate, it is considered a nomen > novum with just 'Lem.' [= Lemaire] as authority and therefore a > validly published name. As it is based on the same plant as W. procera > ('Duch.') Traub, it can act as the base-name for the latter, which is > (with a minor authority change), correctly [once more!]: > > *Worsleya procera* (Lem.) Traub > (syn. Amaryllis procera Duch., nom. illegit. [non A. procera > Salisb.]; Hippeastrum procerum Lem. [nom. nov. pro. A. procera Duch. > non Salisb.]; A. rayneri Hook.f.; W. rayneri (Hook.f.) Traub & > Moldenke, nom. illegit.) > > > (Whether Worsleya deserves generic rank or not is another matter and > resolution must await the results of DNA studies in this tight-knit > group of > Amaryllidaceae). > David Mabberley > > > From: "Alan Meerow" <bulbman@hotmail.com> > Date: May 5, 2002 5:15:43 PM PDT > To: <Worsleya_rayneri_growers@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Worsleya_rayneri_growers] Worsleya procera > > Mabberly also needs to read Systematic Botany where the issue of > whether Worsleya is closely related to Hippeastrum was (hopefully) put > to rest by my and co-workers DNA studies! > > Does anyone know where he published this note? > > Alan Meerow