Dear All, A number of years ago Mike Mace tried to create hybrids between the different groups. I think he reported that when they bloomed, they didn't look like hybrids, but like one of the species. Mike, if you are paying attention to this discussion, can you comment. I was amused to just see that Bob Werra's post was just rejected by a Queensland email program because it "was found to contain inappropriate content". This email program has also rejected a number of Jim McKenney's posts so apparently has a high standard for acceptable language. Perhaps it is the common name of C. tolmiei that is the problem? I guess we need to stick to cat's ears. Mary Sue