On 27 Nov 04 at 8:18, James Waddick wrote: > Dear Joe and All; > Hate to be a spoil sport, but... > I had to refute comparing grass aloes to bulbs. As far as I > know there are no bulbous Aloe. These are herbaceous perennials > plain and simple. Don't really mind any discussions especially if > any are really Zone 5/6 hardy, but these are not bulbs. > > Just a small reality check. Humbug season I suppose. I've been out on the web & such long enough to take considerably exception to camels' noses when they appear under the edge of the tent. The fastest way to ruin any kind of net-forum (newsgroup, mailing list, whatever) is to discuss related topics that are not actually on-topic. I've seen groups ruined because no body put up a fuss when these irrelevancies started to appear, so I'll put up a fuss here and now and hope to nip them in the bud.[1] I have no shame in being a spoil sport. This is NOT a general gardening mailing list. It is NOT a mailing list for gardeners in the harsh mid-continent climate of North America. IMHO it is a mailing list about *bulbs*, and by courtesy, corms, and tubers and rhizomes where these operate as do bulbs. And given the history of the PBS, there is a special emphasis on amaryllids, esp. those of the New World. So please folks, take the grass aloes -- and dare I say it? -- the peonies to another forum. Also the rhizomatous irises. And the oriental poppies. A plant's dying down in hot dry weather and having a fleshy root structure doesn't qualify it for this list. IMHO, of course. [1] Does my rant get bonus points for making a horticultural analogy? -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Maritime Zone 8, a cool Mediterranean climate on beautiful Vancouver Island