In a message dated 11/16/2004 10:47:40 AM Central Standard Time, pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org writes: > Joe, you really need a greenhouse! > Hi Jim and all, Many people have suggested a greenhouse for my various questions. I plan never to have another. Thanks though, to all who help me with ideas and suggestions--such certainly stimulates the thinking process. Aloe and Agave plants continue to surprise me with their ability to endure too much rain and cold--so perhaps the Hymenocallis will happily surprise me too. I have some wide-leaved unknown Hymenocallis from Thailand--no doubt they were imported years ago as garden plants. They continue to surprise me--enduring lots of abuse. I sure don't know what they are--maybe when they bloom. One has petioles and one does not--one has 2-3 inch wide leaves and one has 4 inch wide leaves. Joe