Hi Joe and all, I'm not sure I can help Joe in his Texas climate. Where the Mexican Hymenocallis species are concerned, I have a greenhouse, and some including the new seedlings spend the winter in there, but dry. The older bulbs, of necessity for space, are stored in a heated building, bone-dry from October till May. I fear that over the years I have become calloused, and do not carefully tabulate my loses anymore. If seedlings live, they live. If they die, there will be space for more next year. Most live. As we get more species and more clones of species in cultivation, the risk will decrease in any case. But Joe, you are right to be concerned: The first winter is the worst test of the seedlings' ability to survive. Some Mexican species seem to increase very slowly. H. azteciana comes to mind, as well as H. woelfleana. In years past, I was not able to get seeds on H. azteciana (selfed). I had the same problem with a single bulb of woelfleana. Fortunately for hobbyists but probably sadly for the plants in habitat, H. eucharidifolia is suddenly abundant in commerce. A couple of my plants bloomed, a bit too far apart to cross-pollinate easily. So I selfed them, got some seeds back in July, and those seeds have now germinated (in the greenhouse). Also interesting where eucharidifolia is concerned, all my plants of this one are still in full leaf, although bone dry since mid-September. Only the summer flush of leaves are there, no newer ones. Joe, you really need a greenhouse! Regards, Jim Shields in central Indiana At 06:46 PM 11/15/2004 -0500, Joe wrote: >......... >How do I overwinter some seedlings? They germinated in summer, and are >mostly doing fine, but short days seem to be enticing them to go dormant. >......... ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA