>Dear Mark; > Thanks for this lead: http://www.goo.ne.jp/ I found some choice items. Incidentally does anyone grow any Ledebouria socialis even close to the sort shown on the site suggested- White edged or very contrasting silver/green. I need those. Thanks Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 E-fax 419-781-8594 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +