Jamie, Here is a link back to a previous posting to Mark about how to start them from seeds. As I get more seeds available, I will be sending more to Dell for the BX. If anyone is interested in a few of the primary hybrids that I have tried, email me privately. I have a few to sell but not many. And I am not sure if the cross actually took or not. Sinningias are rather promiscuous and open pollination is rather hard to control. My grouping of S. sellovii is a major fight zone for all the hummingbirds in the neighborhood. I've been caught in more attacks than I prefer. They go to other plants in the garden as well such as the leucotricha right next to it but it is a lot lower and I don't think they always see it. My S. magnifica is a gorgeous, large flowered plant. I have tried crossing it with sellovii. S. magnifica had a huge flush of blooms and produced tons of seed. I have a crop of them coming along now. It is a lovely salmon peach. I hope that the cross with sellovii works as sellovii has a long bloom time (all year almost) but the individual flowers are not as impressive but are produced by the zillions. So something in between would be great. Time will tell. ===== John Ingram in L.A., CA. Soon to become http://www.floralarchitecture.com/ check it out soon 310.709.1613 jjingram@adelphia.net Floralartistry2000@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/floralartistry2000/