>I saw an old message regarding photos of Ledebourias, I could sure use some:) >Kind reagards/joakim Dear All; I have sort of wondered if David Fenwick would respond here. A couple of months ago I asked about this topic and he kindly sent me nearly 30 pics of nearly as many species. Without his permission, I really can't share these, but if David agrees I'd send them privately to Joakim and any others. I found them very useful in this confusing genus. Best Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 E-fax 419-781-8594 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +