In a message dated 7/26/2002 7:55:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, TheAfricanGarden@aol.com writes: The next thing I'll try for the worms is chilli powder, natures home made irritant !!! A solution of mustard powder and water will bring the worms to the surface where they may easily be removed by hand. Mark Mazer Intarsia Ltd. Gaylordsville, CT 06755-0142 http://www.therapyshapes.com/ Aracea, Paris, Cape Bulbs USDA Zone 5 Giant Schnauzer Rescue