Hello Mark, Thanks for the information. Do you know of a US source of Nomenclator Alliorum? What information does it provide beyond names? Oh, to figure out what I'm growing! I had wondered if the A. cillicium was perhaps A. cilicicum. I am going to hope that it is A. rotundum. The A daghestanicum came from you via NARGS in 2000/2001. I was so hoping that A. spkareepora was a real thing. It such a great name. The A. canum has bluish 3 edged leaves. It seems quite happy in its pot, so there it will stay till it declares itself. Take care, Lisa Lisa Flaum Waterloo, SW Illinois, USA Min -10F Max 105F (-24C to 40C) Wet winter, dry summer punctuated by gully washers, high humidity, unreliable snow cover, clay soil Member NARGS, IBS, SRGC, AHS, RHS, APS