Mail fraud is an offense under United States federal law, which includes any scheme that attempts to unlawfully obtain money or valuables in which the postal system is used at any point in the commission of a criminal offense. Mail fraud is covered by Title 18 of the United States Code, Chapter 63. As in the case of wire fraud, this statute is often used as a basis for a separate federal prosecution of what would otherwise have been only a violation of a state law. "Mail fraud" is a term of art referring to a specific statutory crime in the United States of America. In countries with nonfederal legal systems the concept of mail fraud is irrelevant: the activities are likely to be crimes there, but the fact that they are carried out by mail makes no difference as to which authority may prosecute or as to the penalties which may be imposed. In the 1960s and '70s, inspectors under regional chief postal inspectors such as Martin McGee, known as "Mr. Mail Fraud," exposed and prosecuted numerous swindles involving land sales, phony advertising practices, insurance ripoffs and fraudulent charitable organizations using mail fraud charges. -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Kipp McMichael Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 4:17 PM To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Re: [pbs] Haemathus D. and Haemanthus crispus Ms. Chapman, As I just sent Massonia to Mr. Keller on Friday, I can only hope my experience with him is not the same as yours! I write to say that Greg Petit (http://www.africanbulbs.co.za/) has mature-sized H. deformis available for a very reasonable price. The last time I ordered I got 3 for $50 - all of which bloomed the following season. I'll wish us both good luck with Mr. Keller... -|<ipp > Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 15:31:10 -0700 > From: rarebulbs@suddenlink.net > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: Re: [pbs] Haemathus D. and Haemanthus crispus > > I contacted this individual and told him I wanted to buy five mature H. > deformis bulbs at $35 each. I am trying to build up a collection of > mature bulbs to produce seed. He asked for a partial trade, and I sent > him the bulbs he selected worth about $60, plus a money order (he didn't > want a check) for $107.00. He tells me he has no H. deformis bulbs > left. I have asked for a refund with no response, other than a request > that I send him more of my bulbs in 'trade'. So ... I am out $107 plus > the bulbs I sent him that he requested worth about $60. > > This speaks for itself. I don't think I have to warn anyone to beware. > > Diana > > > > On 4/4/2011 2:48 PM, bulborum botanicum wrote: > > I have the same problems Jude > > > > I mailed him also to ask him where he was looking after > > > > no response > > > > Roland > > > > 2011/4/1<santoury@aol.com>: > >> Hello, > >> I am sorry for emailing the list, but I don't think my email is going through, as I've emailed Warren twice now with no response. > >> I have some Massonia bulbs, and am interested in your Haemanthus. > >> Please email me direct. > >> Best, Jude > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Warren Keller<warren_keller@yahoo.com> > >> To: Pacific Bulb Society<pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > >> Sent: Thu, Mar 31, 2011 7:34 pm > >> Subject: [pbs] Haemathus D. and Haemanthus crispus > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi there, i have 4 haemanthus deformis left and about 10 of Haemanthus crispus > >> > >> > >> > >> very large bulbs, just got in the garden today, finally some sun from all the > >> > >> rain, and now am shipping my orders. Just looking to trade for massonia, any > >> > >> variety, please email me if you have any questions, looking for good sized bulbs > >> > >> of massonia, thank you > >> > >> > >> > >> Warren > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> pbs mailing list > >> > >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > >> > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > >> > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pbs mailing list > >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/