>I'm interested to see that Jim states in his blog (see link below) >that L. aestivum doesn't "jump the garden fence" often. There are >huge drifts of it gone wild along the Oswego River north of the town >of Fulton, old enough and well-enough known to be mentioned in >floras I have read (unfortunately I'm traveling now and can't track >down a reference). They tend to grow in low-lying seasonally >flooded byways behind the banks of the river. Dear PBSers, No one has mentioned John Grimshaw's excellent article 'Variation in Leucojum aestivum' in the Plantsman, Mar '08. John gives a review of the history of 'Gravetye Giant' and other variations. Enlightening reading. I agree with Ellen's comments. Even in my dry garden L. aestivum readily sets seeds and moves around the garden. Furthermore seedlings vary in flower size and number. I have a clump labelled 'Gravetye Giant' and I honestly cannot see any major differences, but seeing as its preference seems to be much wetter sites than mine, I suspect all growth is diminished to some extent. John shows a lovely photo of the species growing lushly submerged in water although this may be seasonal. If prefers damp habitats. John also gives evidence of bulbs sold with a mixture of cultivars under a single name. What a surprise. Even in a garden that might be a challenge to express full vigor, I find it easy and charming. Best Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +