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Hello Bill? On the right hand side of the eBay display, there is a line
which says-- ask the seller a question--click on this and you will be able
to state your concern. If he does not respond after a couple of tries and
you've given him/her time to respond, s/he can be reported to eBay who would
probably at least frown on his unauthorized use. I'd not assume that he is
misbehaving. Many people are unaware that such pictures are not necessarily
in the public domain--which is why it's good to have your name on them and
some growers do, e.g., Henk Wouters, Mauro Peixotto . Regards, Adam

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2. Scadoxus nutans seeds (Doug Westfall)
3. Brutal Lycoris season (James Waddick)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:16:16 -0400
From: "John Manion" <growplants@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] pbs Digest, Vol 43, Issue 3
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Thanks for your suggestions regarding bulb images. The company from whom
we are buying our bulbs does have images we are using, however, some are
not as good as I'd like to use.

John T. Manion, Curator
The Bailey Arboretum
194 Bayview Road
Lattingtown, NY 11560
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2. Lycoris squamigera (Jim McKenney)
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4. Seeds of Dioscorea discolor (soberano.sol)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:23:57 -0700
From: N Sterman <TalkingPoints@PlantSoup.Com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Source for Bulb Images?
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Also, if you go to the on-line bulb sellers, they will probably be
willing to share images if you give them credit (it is like free
advertising for them so it ends up being a win-win).

Be sure you tell them it is for a non-profit arboretum

Nan

On Aug 1, 2006, at 10:12 AM, John Manion wrote:

Greetings All,

Can anyone recommend a source for online photos of bulb plants in
flower that I may use without a fee? This is for a brochure I am
developing for a fundraising bulb sale this fall at the non-profit
arboretum at which I work. I would, of course, give full credit to
the photographer(s). A few examples of the plants for which I am
seeking good images:

Chionodoxa forbesii, Tulipa ?Ollioules?, Allium sphaerocephalon,
A. schubertii, Narcissus ?Curlew? , N. ?Baby Moon?, N. ?Fruit
Cup?, Camassia leichtlinii 'Blue Danube', C. leichtlinii
'Semiplena'.

Any help will be very much appreciated,

John T. Manion, Curator
The Bailey Arboretum,
194 Bayview Road
Lattingtown, NY 11560
(516) 571-8020
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 20:18:00 -0400
From: "Jim McKenney" <jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com>
Subject: [pbs] Lycoris squamigera
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Lycoris squamigera is blooming here in Maryland, both in a neighbor's
garden
and in my garden. There has been little rain recently, yet these are big,
robust stems - and, it seems to me, a bit early.

The local temperature got up to 101 degrees F today, and it's been at or
near 100 for three days in a row.

Jim McKenney
Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, lately the torrid zone.

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 08:22:38 -0400
From: "J.E. Shields" <jshields@indy.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Lycoris squamigera
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Lycoris squamigera are not in bloom here at my place yet, but 60 miles
due
west of here, outside Greencastle, Indiana, I saw a yard full of them in
flower yesterday. By the way, swallowtail butterflies (Papilio glaucus,
P.
troilus, and P. philenor) seemed to be nectaring at them.

Here in Westfield, I have a couple laggard Lycoris sanguinea in bloom,
and
scapes up on a couple L. sprengeri. I'll check more carefully for other
Lycoris today.

We had about 1 inch of rain yesterday, and the weather cooled down to
practically comfortable.

Regards,
Jim Shields
in central Indiana (USA)

At 08:18 PM 8/3/2006 -0400, Jim McKenney wrote:

Lycoris squamigera is blooming here in Maryland, both in a neighbor's
garden
and in my garden. There has been little rain recently, yet these are
big,
robust stems - and, it seems to me, a bit early.

The local temperature got up to 101 degrees F today, and it's been at or
near 100 for three days in a row.

Jim McKenney
Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, lately the torrid zone.

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P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/
Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA
Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:50:49 -0300
From: "soberano.sol" <soberano.sol@bol.com.br>
Subject: [pbs] Seeds of Dioscorea discolor
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Hi all,

I have available for exchange some seeds of Dioscorea discolor
(amount very limited).
If somebody will be interested party, please writes for the email:
soberano_sol@yahoo.com.br

Regards,

Tarc?sio Eduardo Raduenz

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:34:47 -0700
From: Doug Westfall <eagle85@flash.net>
Subject: [pbs] Scadoxus nutans seeds
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Is there anyone out there who knows how long it takes for Scadoxus
nutans seeds to "ripen"?

Doug Westfall

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:31:30 -0500
From: James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com>
Subject: [pbs] Brutal Lycoris season
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Dear all -
The notes about bloom remind me about our brutal hot dry
summer. I have three Lycoris in bloom:

1 plant of L. squamigera in the shade; 2 stalks about 3/4 full height
2 stalks of L. longituba in 2 spots, both shorter than typical.
1 6 inch stem of L. chinensis. Pitiful.

In previous years of drought, these species and others simply
did not even try to bloom until we had a good penetrating rain fall.
I am assuming and hoping the plants, "know best" and are awaiting the
rain so they can reach full height and vigor.

It has been pretty awful here for any bulbs with reduce
flowering, shorter stalks, distorted blooms or buds that wither
before opening. Actually pretty amazing that some even 'try'.

Enough Jim W.
--
Dr. James W. Waddick
8871 NW Brostrom Rd.
Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711
USA
Ph. 816-746-1949
Zone 5 Record low -23F
Summer 100F +

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 00:11:44 EDT
From: Blee811@aol.com
Subject: Re: [pbs] Brutal Lycoris season
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In a message dated 8/4/2006 4:34:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jwaddick@kc.rr.com writes:
1 plant of L. squamigera in the shade; 2 stalks about 3/4 full height
2 stalks of L. longituba in 2 spots, both shorter than typical.
1 6 inch stem of L. chinensis. Pitiful.

Here in the Cincinnati area, Jim, we have had better rainfall, although
currently "enjoying" intense heat and humidity. The L. squamigera in two
different areas, although all in shade, are normal height and blooming
their hearts
out.

The L. radiata that Conroe Joe so graciously offered are in a different
area
and two are showing some leaves---I don't think that's what they're
supposed
to be doing right now!
Bill Lee

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 01:46:55 +1200
From: "Bill Dijk" <daffodil@xnet.co.nz>
Subject: [pbs] Wiki pictures used without permission
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Hi Folks,

I noticed one of my photos on Ebay at this address;

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Cyrtanthus-Elatus-Delicata-…

I don't mind sharing, with permission and proper identification,
This person did not even bother asking, especially when used for
commercial
purposes.
I don't know this person, or how to contact him/her on Ebay
What can/should I do ? Ask this person to remove my picture ?

Best wishes,

Bill Dijk

Tauranga, New Zealand :annual rainfall :1250 mm.
Sunshine hours, mean annual : 2350 hours.
Temp.mean max.Summer : 25?C. winter:///15/?C.
Temp.mean min. Summer :14.5?C. Winter: 5?C.
Wet mild Winters with occasional light frost.

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 10:05:46 -0400
From: "hornig@usadatanet.net" <hornig@usadatanet.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Wiki pictures used without permission
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Hi Bill - usually a brief and firm note to the seller will have the
desired
result. If it doesn't, you can file a complaint with eBay (you just have
to look for the appropriate links on the Home page). I've found that the
folks at eBay respond very quickly and effectively to such complaints
(also, FYI, to complaints about people who routinely end auctions early if
they aren't bringing the desired price). There are actually human beings
behind that huge institution - !

Ellen Hornig
Seneca Hill Perennials
Oswego NY USA

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From: Bill Dijk daffodil@xnet.co.nz
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 01:46:55 +1200
To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [pbs] Wiki pictures used without permission

Hi Folks,

I noticed one of my photos on Ebay at this address;

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Cyrtanthus-Elatus-Delicata-…
QQihZ017QQcategoryZ42207QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

Best wishes,

Bill Dijk

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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 15:16:07 +0100
From: "Mark Smyth" <mark@marksgardenplants.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Wiki pictures used without permission
To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Bill that one has ended but your image has been used again to sell another
which has 5 days left.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Cyrtanthus-Elatus-Delicata-…

You have two choices
1. demand your image is removed and add a link to your photo. right hand
side meet the seller then below that ask seller a question. Demand it be
removed
2. fax ebay who will remove the sale.
http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/community/… This is
the UK complaint form. Print it, fill it in and I'll look for the
Australian
complaint fax number

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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 15:21:04 +0100
From: "Mark Smyth" <mark@marksgardenplants.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Wiki pictures used without permission
To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
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here is the Australian complaint form
http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/community/NOCI1.pdf

I no longer ask for my images to be removed. I fax ebay to remove the
listing

Mark

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