bulbs for foliage
Joe Shaw (Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:50:55 PDT)
Hi Gang,
When I was growing up Morea iridiodes was commonly employed in landscapes
(southern California). Now, I think I see the same plant along the Gulf
Coast (Greater Houston area). The plant has seen several name changes over
time and seems to be most commonly called Dietes iridiodes in the nursery
trade.
I never really cared for the flowers, they were plentiful but ephemeral.
However, seeing them planted here and there in zone 9b (maybe 9a 1/2) I do
like the foliage. It is sort of like Iris 'Contraband Girl,' every bit as
tall but not as coarse--and maybe darker.
There are other geophytes that I grow for foliage including red-leaved
Crinum, some sort of bulb-like Aloe species, a few Colocasia or Alocasia
types, and some Canna hybrids with bright leaves, etc.
QUESTION:
Are there other geophytes, or wannabe geophytes, that make a nice foliage
display as does the fortnight lily (or Iris 'Contraband Girl')? I'm mostly
looking for the grass-like foliage that is on the hardy side. Maybe I'm
dreaming but a few more things must be out there.
I'm thinking to try a few plants of the Restionaceae, but they are not
really geophytes and they might be too tall for what I'm really wishing to
find.
Cordially,
Joe
Conroe, TX
Not too hot today, scattered rain, humidity high.
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Scadoxus nutans seed (African Bulbs)
2. Re: Scadoxus nutans seed (Doug Westfall)
3. Re: Cyrtanthus epiphyticus (Ernie O'Byrne)
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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 18:19:04 +0200
From: "African Bulbs" <africanbulbs@haznet.co.za>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Scadoxus nutans seed
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Doug
We don't grow S. nutans, but with S. katharinae, S. membranaceus and S.
puniceus, it can take up to four months - wait until you see the green
berries change colour to orange or red, then clean out the seeds inside,
rinse and dry them for a day or two before sowing - make sure all the
membrane/pulp is cleaned off the seed. We usually keep them in an icecream
tub and wait for them to send out a radicle before sowing (like most
fleshy-seeded amaryllids, the seeds need light and should be visible above
ground when sowing). Some Scadoxus will grow a bulb and roots in the first
year, but no leaves - in the second season the leaves appear.
Rhoda McMaster
Napier, SA
Good winter rains, a very good spring flower season starting in the W.Cape
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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 15:57:37 -0700
From: Doug Westfall <eagle85@flash.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Scadoxus nutans seed
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On Sunday, August 6, 2006, at 09:19 AM, African Bulbs wrote:
Rhoda McMaster
Napier, SA
Thanks, Rhoda,
This is the first time that I have had S. nutans bloom. I do have a
good collection of Scadoxus, and most of them have bloomed. The only
one that has not set seeds is S cinnabarinus, but it has bloomed only
once a year ago.
Thanks again.
Doug Westfall
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 18:38:56 -0700
From: "Ernie O'Byrne" <eob@peak.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Cyrtanthus epiphyticus
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I should mention that when we were visiting S. Africa we did not have very
good references for ID. We only had The Flora of the Natal Drakensberg by
Donald Killick and The Botany of the Southern Natal Drakensberg by
Hilliard
and Burtt. Somewhere between the collection which was listed as aff.
epiphyticus and the planting into the garden the aff. was lost. It is not
a
positive ID, but seemed most likely at the time based on the books we had
and the info in the various botanical areas that we visited that had
samples
with ID. We collected the seed in January, '96 on Naude's Nek right above
the parking area at the hairpin turn below the pass, up near the cliff
face.
There were some also growing, not in rock crevices, as the literature
states, but in the very rocky meadow area below the cliffs.
Ours is just finished flowering and I would describe it as orange also,
although both Hilliard & Burtt and the newer Mountain Flowers: a Field
Guide
to the Flora of the Drakensberg and Lesotho by Elsa Pooley show an
"orange"
flower cluster and describe the color as red. Color desription are very
cultural, though. My wife (who is German) and I used to argue over the
color
line between orange and red frequently, her "red" going well into my
"orange". Interestingly, she has been acculturated over the years of
living
here (we now agree) and now cannot even remember those discussionsof
thirty
years ago.
Perhaps Panayoti would have an opinion re whether C. epiphyticus grows in
that particular spot, or whether another Cyrtanthus does.
Sadly a freeze of 17 degrees F. in February this year, just about wiped me
out. I only had one plant blooming this year, whereas last there must have
been 25-30 inflorencences.
Apologies for not being more accurate with the nomenclature.
Ernie O'Byrne
Northwest Garden Nursery
86813 Central Road
Eugene, ORegon 97402
USA
USDA Z. 7B
"Most stern moralists are in the habit of thinking of pleasure as only of
the senses, and, when they eschew the pleasures of sense, they do not
notice
that the pleasures of power, which to men of their temperament are far
more
attractive, have not been brought within the ban of their ascetic
self-denial."
-- Bertrand Russell
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Subject: [pbs] Cyrtanthus epiphyticus
Blooming now from BX seed offered by Ernie O'Bryne in January 2004 is
Cyrtanthus epiphyticus. My flowers don't look like the ones that are
pictured on the wiki from Bill Dijk, <SNIP>
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