In a message dated 8/4/2006 4:34:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jwaddick@kc.rr.com writes: 1 plant of L. squamigera in the shade; 2 stalks about 3/4 full height 2 stalks of L. longituba in 2 spots, both shorter than typical. 1 6 inch stem of L. chinensis. Pitiful. Here in the Cincinnati area, Jim, we have had better rainfall, although currently "enjoying" intense heat and humidity. The L. squamigera in two different areas, although all in shade, are normal height and blooming their hearts out. The L. radiata that Conroe Joe so graciously offered are in a different area and two are showing some leaves---I don't think that's what they're supposed to be doing right now! Bill Lee