I should mention that when we were visiting S. Africa we did not have very good references for ID. We only had The Flora of the Natal Drakensberg by Donald Killick and The Botany of the Southern Natal Drakensberg by Hilliard and Burtt. Somewhere between the collection which was listed as aff. epiphyticus and the planting into the garden the aff. was lost. It is not a positive ID, but seemed most likely at the time based on the books we had and the info in the various botanical areas that we visited that had samples with ID. We collected the seed in January, '96 on Naude's Nek right above the parking area at the hairpin turn below the pass, up near the cliff face. There were some also growing, not in rock crevices, as the literature states, but in the very rocky meadow area below the cliffs. Ours is just finished flowering and I would describe it as orange also, although both Hilliard & Burtt and the newer Mountain Flowers: a Field Guide to the Flora of the Drakensberg and Lesotho by Elsa Pooley show an "orange" flower cluster and describe the color as red. Color desription are very cultural, though. My wife (who is German) and I used to argue over the color line between orange and red frequently, her "red" going well into my "orange". Interestingly, she has been acculturated over the years of living here (we now agree) and now cannot even remember those discussionsof thirty years ago. Perhaps Panayoti would have an opinion re whether C. epiphyticus grows in that particular spot, or whether another Cyrtanthus does. Sadly a freeze of 17 degrees F. in February this year, just about wiped me out. I only had one plant blooming this year, whereas last there must have been 25-30 inflorencences. Apologies for not being more accurate with the nomenclature. Ernie O'Byrne Northwest Garden Nursery 86813 Central Road Eugene, ORegon 97402 USA USDA Z. 7B "Most stern moralists are in the habit of thinking of pleasure as only of the senses, and, when they eschew the pleasures of sense, they do not notice that the pleasures of power, which to men of their temperament are far more attractive, have not been brought within the ban of their ascetic self-denial." -- Bertrand Russell -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Mary Sue Ittner Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 5:37 PM To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Subject: [pbs] Cyrtanthus epiphyticus Blooming now from BX seed offered by Ernie O'Bryne in January 2004 is Cyrtanthus epiphyticus. My flowers don't look like the ones that are pictured on the wiki from Bill Dijk, <SNIP>