Hi Gang, From time to time I have seeds of tropical-type Crinum. The mother plants are garden forms of C. asiaticum or similar plants; the leaves can be red, green, slim, or wide. Very often the seeds are huge. The seeds often take a long time to germinate. Typicaly, I put them on top of good soil in a 2- gallon container and leave them under a porch where they get rain, bright light, and no frost even though there might be frost on the grass some feet away. Indoors germination has not sped things up. Because they are Crinum, I tried a couple of obvious variations (several months just sitting dry, etc.), but there is no fooling these seeds. The seeds take their time to germinate, each germinating on its own schedule. Sometimes these "tropicals" germinate soon after they come out of the pod, even while half in the pod and spilling out; sometimes waiting till the following spring. I wonder if anyone has the same experience. Cordially, Joe Conroe, TX Not so hot today, but still no rain.