----------- Jim M. mentioned Kaempferia rotunda ---------- Hi Gang, I'm not familiar with Kaempferia rotunda. What conditions does it like, lots of sun, lots of humus, lots of shade? Where does it come from? Anyway Jim, right on the money with the mention of gingers. Some (I'm thinking of Heydichum )are really messy, but some hybrids stand up tall and look good if they have enough water, blooms or no blooms. I have Hedychium 'Tara' and 'Elizabeth.' Both do well and are attractive, especially coming up between azaleas or other "round" plants. I've tried 'Daniel Weeks', smells great but is not stately. Cordially, Joe Shaw