Mary Sue, thanks for this latest batch of images. The photos of Kniphofia uvaria intrigue me. They show flowers much nicer - brighter, clearer colors - than anything I've seen under this name in cultivation in the past. This name Kniphofia uvaria is common in early twentieth century gardening books, and I've often wondered just what it is supposed to be. I've raised garden material from seed in the past and they were a big disappointment: pale, dull, pastel colors, not at all like the vibrantly colored ones in your images. I wish I had room for a Kniphofia collection. There must be some problem with Kniphofia here in eastern North America, because the plants are not really common in our gardens, yet catalogs from the early twentieth century show long lists of cultivars. Whatever happened to these plants? You would think that our gardens would be full of them by now. Jim McKenney jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where Fritillaria bucharica has come out of the ground with a big, fat cone of buds and F. raddeana is, as it were, waving some buds above ground to see if it's safe to come out. It isn't -yet. My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ BLOG! http://mcwort.blogspot.com/ Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/