In addition to the problems usually cited in discussing Rhodohypoxis (winter treatment, where to get them), I think there is another issue which might curb their popularity even if they should become readily available: in the garden they look just like impatiens (the I. waller1ana garden sorts). In this sense, their niche in the garden has already been filled. I've grown them here in Maryland outside year 'round in my bog trays where they persisted for years. I eventually lost them, but I think that was due to the rats which moved in and not to winter loss. Jim McKenney jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where Arum cyrenaicum seems to be about to do something. My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ BLOG! http://mcwort.blogspot.com/ Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/