I haven't seen a plant of sarmentosa, but in pictures, the flower head looks narrow. I shall take a picture of the plant that is blooming now. I don't think it has ever been for sale, just passed around to friends. Diane Whitehead Victoria, British Columbia, Canada maritime zone 8, cool Mediterranean climate mild rainy winters, mild dry summers On 27-Feb-08, at 10:47 PM, Lauw de Jager wrote: > > how do you differentiate K. uvaria from K sarmantosa? >