From: "Jim McKenney" < >Winter hardy gesneriads (other than Ramonda and kin) >seem to be just out >of >reach right now, but many are hardier than expected. Sinningia leucotricha >has survived here outside all year for years near a house >wall. Maybe >raising them en masse will provide a few plants with >enhanced hardiness. Although off-topic really, what is it that kills the 'hardy' gesneriads in your area, Jim? John Grimshaw Visit John Grimshaw's Garden Diary http://johngrimshawsgardendiary.blogspot.com/ Dr. John M. Grimshaw Sycamore Cottage Colesbourne Cheltenham Gloucestershire GL53 9NP