There is a product called Dry Stall which is sold by many feed and hardware stores as a floor drier for horse stalls. It is all pumice, but not quite the size you would like for succulents. Particle size is somewhat smaller. As far as I know, it is shipped across the country. At least I was able to get it in the Atlanta area. The company is in San Clemente California. Way back then, a 40 lb bag cost $9.00. Richard San Diego County -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Jane McGary Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:49 AM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: Re: [pbs] Terrarium substrate non-perlite A fast-draining mineral alternative to Perlite is horticultural pumice, which can now be purchased in small quantities in many garden centers in areas where this rock is not "native." Also, I think an attractive way of growing some of the more epiphytic plants in a terrarium would be to plant them in thick moss growing on a rock, if you happen to live where such mossy rocks can be obtained (I know, probably not in Arizona). My woods have big piles of rocks dumped there many decades ago by farmers, and because these rocks have a porous surface layer, they host lovely mats of moss, in which I've planted such things as certain types of Saxifraga, small Heuchera, and ferns. I'll bet some of the small species of Asiatic Primula would do well, and also some of the gesneriads. Keeping the moss planting in a closed environment would provide enough humidity to prevent the moss going dormant in summer. This is getting pretty far from bulbs, I admit! Jane McGary