Jim Shields wrote..... >The Brother type PT printers using their TZ laminated tapes seem to have >excellent staying power in the greenhouse, even on the flexible vinyl >plastic tags. > >Outdoors I use metal markers ...The metal plate is zinc and does not corrode >much over the years. The wire legs are steel, but they do slowly corrode >after several years outdoors in the ground. Dear All, I can definitely one up Jim S's comments about metal markers outdoors. I happen to know the inventor of a new PERMANENT outdoor label for garden use. See http://kincaidgardens.com/. This is a metal label similar to the one Jim mentioned, but it is made totally of stainless steel so will not corrode, bend, rust, melt or alter in any way. And it is designed so that the flat portion that is the actual label can never accidentally fall or get blown off the legs. Very clever new design. Avery and others makes a self adhesive label( 30 per sheet) out of UV resistant plastic that just fits on these labels. The labels can be printed using any laser printer and the resulting product is very long term and easy to read. The combination is a bit pricey and totally unsuited to the original topic of seed pot labels, but very much in the realm of reality for long term labels of permanent plantings. For serious labelling. Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +