Dave Poole wrote >SNIP> I live in the south-west of England and due to a fairly unusual >micro-climate, can grow Clivia without any protection during most years. >Winter-wise, it equates to USDA 9b or even higher, although our cool, >oceanic summers are far below that.............<SNIP> So do I Dave but I couldn't get away with growing Clivias without winter protection in Ivybridge. I have seen them growing well at Coleton Fishacre though. http://nationaltrust.org.uk/main/w-vh/… David Nicholson in Devon, UK. Zone 9b