Did you really mean *with* phytosanitary certificates? If a shipment is accompanied by a phytosanitary certificate, it doesn’t matter if there are fewer than or greater than 12 items; they should all be able to be imported into the U.S. If you meant *without* a phyto, then your query makes more sense. I’ve heard about the 12 or fewer rule for bulbs without a phyto, but I’ve never been able to find the exception in the APHIS documents. I would love to see it. --Lee Poulsen Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a Latitude 34°N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m > On Dec 8, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Keith Maw <kdmaw48@gmail.com> wrote: > > For the last several years I’ve made small orders of bulbs, rhizomes, and other bare-root plants with phytosanitary certificates from nurseries in the UK and Japan with no problems. These orders have always been for 12 or fewer plants without the need for a permit, per the APHIS "Plants/Plant Parts for Planting” protocols. A friend in California has just received an alarming email from our favorite Japanese nursery that any further orders - regardless of size - will require a permit. I couldn’t find any changes on the APHIS web site. Has anyone else experienced this apparent change in policy? > > Keith Maw, Brier, WA > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…