Jim: Very interesting. From our experience, it's pretty easy to venture a good guess about the parents of most lycoris since the genetics of each parent show in the offspring. From a plant breeders perspective, there is no way that L. straminea is involved in L. squamigera. That being said, I'd bet we are looking at some misidentified plants in the literature. We've all seen how confusing this was in the crinum world where many of the reported parents in the old literature were incorrectly identified. Tony Avent Plant Delights Nursery @ Juniper Level Botanic Garden 9241 Sauls Road Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F USDA Hardiness Zone 7b email tony@plantdelights.com website http://www.plantdelights.com/ phone 919 772-4794 fax 919 772-4752 "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least three times" - Avent James Waddick wrote: >> Did you mean that L. straminea was a parent of L. squamigera or did you >> mean L. longituba? >> > > Dear Tony, > The lit says L. straminea. Seems odd, but see Kurita et all > paper, Synopsis of the Genus Lycoris, in SIDA 1994. > > But according to Identification and Classification of the > Genus Lycoris Using. Molecular Markers. > > straminea is 2N = 19, sprengeri is 2n = 22, longituba > is 2n = 16 and squamigera is 2n (3n) = 27 > > The only way you can get 2/3 n= 27 is to combine the 2n of > sprengeri and n or longituba to get 27 chromosomes. > > To me it seems like squamigera looks like a combo of > longituba and sprengeri, but the experimental crossing of straminea x > sprengeri produced the look alike. Odd > > If the Roh et all chromosome info is correct, the parentage > of Squamigera could ONLY be Sprengeri x longituba. > All the karyotype info in Roh is fairly confusing. > > > http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~lycoris/… > > > Best Jim W. >