On 31 Jul 2009, at 18:53, Leo A. Martin wrote: > But not everybody can learn everything, especially in a two-year program! The professionally trained horticulturists I referred to in an earlier message underwent several years of full-time training, with lots of hands-on experience. Perhaps that's the most fundamental objection to the MG programs: it's book learning (or so it appears), not practical knowledge. As we all know, there's a wide gulf between what the books say and what the plants do! -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Maritime Zone 8, a cool Mediterranean climate on beautiful Vancouver Island http://maps.google.ca/maps/…