In a message dated 25-Jan-03 3:14:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, Arnold@nj.rr.com writes: > I found a nursery in the western states that grows Eremurus for the cut > flower trade. The dry winters are the key I think as with many central > Asian bulbs. > There is a nursery within a few miles of Portland that grows several acres of Eremurus for the cut flower trade. As I recall, the land is on a slight grade so drainage wouldn't be a problem. Bear in mind, however, it rains almost every day in the North end of the Willamette Valley from early November to late March and the soil can get quite wet. Although, at the same time, air temperatures are in the low 40s F to near (or below) freezing at night. While I tried these plants twice in sandy soil in Minnesota (easily colder and snowier in Winter than Afghanistan!!), I was unsuccessful. In reading the exchanges on this topic, I was struck by the comment that one needs to be extremely careful with the fleshy, brittle roots to protect them from damage, as that can be fatal. I can't recall the exact condition of those roots when planting them (as it's been many years) but I seem to remember them being quite pliable and stretching most of the three foot width of the depression I planted them in. Probably didn't have much more than an inch to an inch and a half of soil over the crown. They were mulched with six inches of straw over Winter and probably some three feet of snow, as well. I don't know, but maybe it was the mulch that did them in as the soil most likely never froze beneath it. Since Oregon generally receives no to very little rain from late June to late October, and it can get well into the 90s F. several times during that period, that would coincide with the dormant period in their homeland. Countries lying on plateaus in the foothills of the Himalaya are probably quite cold and snowy during Winter. This discussion reminds me of the advice that is solemnly provided with respect to Martagon lily bulbs, i.e., "they will sulk their first year (after being transplanted) and won't grow or, if they do, won't bloom." This is nonsense. With these particular lilies, it is very important to loosen the soil in a large enough area around the bulb to preserve most of the basal roots and -- this is the important part -- they must not be allowed to dry out. Doing so will kill them. Martagon bulbs dug and transplanted with care and consideration to the issue of live roots will grow and bloom near normally the following season. Bulbs handled carelessly, allowing their roots to dessicate and die, will perform exactly as the "advice" would indicate. While general advice may be a point to start with, empirical observation and experience is usually the best teacher! Dave Karnstedt Silverton, OR Maritime Mediterranean climate email: davekarn@AOL.com