Dear All, Before we move on to the next topic which will be Brunsvigia, introduced by Bill Dijk, there was a request from someone in the suggestions for the topics of the week about where you can find seed or bulb or the genus in question. I will write about the ones I know and I hope someone from Australia on this list will tell us the sources they know in that country and someone from the UK will add their resources as well. Seed: Pacific Bulb Society BX Northwest Native Seed, Ron Ratko, 17595 Vierra Canyon Rd 172, Prunedale, CA 93907, oreonana@juno.com Ron offers wild collected seed with a description of where he found it (usually elevation and soil type) and a description of the flowers Seed exchanges from groups like the North American Rock Garden Society, California Horticultural Society, and probably the Alpine Garden Society and the Scottish Rock Garden Society. Every year the lists are different depending on what is donated. Obviously a couple people got seed from Southwest Seeds and Sally Walker. I stopped getting that catalog since I decided most of the things were from areas so unlike mine so don't have a current address. Possible sources of corms depending on the year: Telos Rare Bulbs Jane McGary's extra list Pacific Bulb Society BX California Native Plant Sales Berkeley Horticultural Nursery Far West Bulb Farm http://californianativebulbs.com/ Many commercial catalogs list a couple like Triteleia laxa and Triteleia ixioides Lauw de Jager carries some in France: http://www.bulbargence.com/ One thing to keep in mind is if the price is low it is probably a variety that offsets rapidly which could be a good or bad thing depending on your perspective. If any of you on this list also offer this Triteleia for sale in the fall you are welcome to tell us so your name can be added to the list of sources. I don't think the variety Triteleia ixioides 'Starlight' that Jane mentioned and is in the Berkeley catalog I saw this morning is the same one that I grew from the Robinett wild collected seed. Mine is a buttercup yellow, not a pale yellow as described. I think it was one of the reasons Jim was so in awe of it. It is a really gorgeous plant and I'm not sure he started any from that particular seed. Most of the keys say T. ixioides ssp. scabra is pale yellow, but Jim and Georgie found in their travel so much variation in color that using color primarily to determine subspecies is a bit tricky. The one I have offsets a little, but not in great numbers. If I can find a picture of it I will scan it and send it to the images lists. Yellows don't always photograph very well for me. Once again I make the case for growing from seed and Ron Ratko's descriptions are really tempting. I have had excellent results from most of the seed I have gotten from him and I think he must have a very good way of storing it since I always hold mine over to start the following fall. Thanks to all of you who contributed this week and I invite any others to add to my comments. I hope some of us will have stimulated enough interest in this genus to give some of the species a try if you aren't now growing them. Mary Sue