I tried this after many label experiments that didn't work. They looked good and lasted well until the day my yard worker brought a new kid, who gathered them up from the rose bushes and placed them carefully into the rock pile. Luckily I knew most of my roses well, and the tags were mainly for visitors.... At 03:12 PM 2/10/2003 -0800, you wrote: >hey look natural, and birds don't pull them out. I tried this years ago, >but the felt pen wore off quickly. He uses paint pens, and the paint >lasts well. Marguerite English - Gardening with bulbs and perennials at 3500 feet in the mountains of southern California.