J.E. ShieldsDoug Westfall jshields104@insightbb.com1111 Claiborne Dr. Long Beach, CA > Hi Jim, I don't want to debate the concept that you have suggested in your Email, but I'm certain that both have their goo and bad points. I would debate the scenery point. When we go to our Summer place in Sequoia, the scenery is breath taking! The mountains to our east are 13,000 to 14,000 feet high. The gorge below our lake (King's Canyon) is the deepest in the US. The Redwood trees are the biggest trees. The Brodiaeas,the Alliums, Sierra Rein Orchids, Leopard and Tiger Lilies, and Calochortus are varied and easily found. Add to that the hugh Ceders and several species of Pines, Trout, Perigrin Falcons and Bald Eagles -- and the list could go on, and on. No, I do not work for the Chamber of Commerce. Best wishes, Doug