Dear Jim, I know my posts are so long that I imagine a lot of people give up before they read the whole thing, but in my first post I mentioned that there was a talk just on this Clivia. Here is what I said: "After her talk, John Rourke told the story of the amazing find of Clivia mirabilis in the Western Cape. It was found in screes and cliffs below a rock plateau near Nieuwoudtville in a semi-desert area in an area with only 400 mm of rainfall, relentless sun. It has leathery leaves and curved pendulous orange flowers with green tips, red pedicels, and red ovaries. It takes up almost every drop of water during the wet season and is almost like a succulent. He speculated the pollinators were attracted to the red pedicels and ovaries. These Clivias offer hope for breeding Clivias that can be grown in the sun. The seeds ripen very rapidly. I was pleased to hear that the plants are protected in a reserve, but there has been an attempt to get seed to growers so plant collectors will be less tempted to dig them from the wild. (The plant habitat makes this a bit difficult however.) And the seed is growing so perhaps one day this newly discovered genus will be better known." Mary Sue