Dear Rand, Welcome to the PBS List. There was a man on the IBS list for awhile many years ago from Seattle named George Krassle. He dropped out and I didn't have any luck contacting him later. He reported to that group that he was growing Ferraria on a summer cycle as he was unable to grow them successfully with his wet cold winters otherwise. I tried to turn some of mine around and didn't have any luck even though he said it was quite easy and they started into growth when he watered them. Maybe if you started them from seed in the spring and they always had been grown that way it would work. Or maybe it depended on how they were stored. In October I plan to have a topic of the week on the subject you have suggested. It was inspired by Lisa Flaum, but I wanted to wait until Mark Wilcox has returned from South America since he too is interested. I've haven't figured out a title yet, maybe Bulbs that can be grown out of their normal cycle? Mary Sue