Dear Mary Sue, Thanks for the notes on Ledebouria socialis and for taking the time during your trip to ask about localities. The localities and river you mention are on my map of South Africa. So far I have not seen plants or illustrations of L. socialis from the eastern portion of its range (Grahamstown to East London) including the Keiskama river drainage. I wonder if these vary from the plants from the western portion of its range (west and northwest of Port Elizabeth)? What was the book on Ledebouria you mention? Is this a published book? I found definitions for the Valley Bushveld (A23) under the more detailed discussions of Thicket Biome which are on line. Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Sue Ittner" <msittner@mcn.org> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 5:51 PM Subject: [pbs] Ledbouria socialis > Dear All, > > Fred asked about where Ledbouria socialis was found and no one was able to > help him so when I was in South Africa I tried to see if I could come up > with an answer. Rod Saunders directed me to a book on Ledbouria and this is > what it said. > > Ledbouria socialis is endemic to the Cape Province. Most of the known > localities are in the Eastern Cape. It is found in fine to medium grained > shallow to deep well drained humus rich sandy soil. (Now that's a > mouthful.) It usually grows in shade mostly in closed evergreen woodland. A > few populations occur in evergreen scrub forest. Most of the localities are > in the veld type known as Valley Bushveld. > > Cameron McMaster described the habitat as dry valley bush veld. He said > most of the ones he had seen were found around Grahamstown and > Williamstown. He also mentioned the Keiskamma River Valley where the road > to Port Alfred crosses the river. I haven't checked any maps for the > spelling on these names so maybe if you have a map Fred you can look them > up. I hope that this information is helpful. I think I have the book on > veld types and could copy the section on Type 23 if this isn't enough. > > Mary Sue > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > >