In message <WC20090909053216.0902E8@bulbargence.com>, contact <contact@bulbargence.com> writes come to life again by the end of August. An other hybrid that can be pût in the same catagory of very good garden plants is Amarine (x Nerine powelli xCrinum moorei) If anyone has pictures of Amarine they'd like to add to the PBS wiki, drop me a private email. I hope my xAmarcrinum turn out to look as good as the ones in Jim's photos. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net/ post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941