Good day everyone, I think I understand what Shawn is saying but I don't believe the crinkled leaves are a disease. My x Crinums and some other evergreen bulbs exhibit the same thing. In the Spring the new growth is beautiful but as the summer heats up and the winds blow, the leaves look mottled and crinkled. I think it might be environmental stress. Celeste in Phoenix, AZ where we are getting some heat relief. We may be under 100 degrees today. -----Original Message----- From: Richard <xerics@cox.net> To: 'Pacific Bulb Society' <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Wed, Sep 9, 2009 8:00 am Subject: Re: [pbs] × Amarcrinum The bulbs I sent to the BX last month never produced diseased leaves. Richard Wagner Vista, CA Subject: Re: [pbs] × Amarcrinum Dear all, Every Amarcrinum plant I've received, from the BX or otherwise, has had its leaves mottled, striped, or distorted by what I think is a virus. The leaves in these pictures don't appear too bad from the distance used in the photographs. Are there "clean" sources for Amarcrinum? Shawn Pollard Yuma, AZ