Dudleya as a geophyte seems like a bit of a stretch to me! However, for those who are interested in these coastal Californian (and I think Mexican) succulents, there is an article about D. nesiotica in the new issue of the Rock Garden Quarterly, along with numerous articles on aroids, including "A Review of the Genus Biarum" by Peter Boyce. I was thrilled to publish the last, since I grow a number of these fascinating miniature aroids and have found them able to cope with at least a typical Oregon winter in the rock garden as well as the bulb frame. Jack Muzatko, author of the Dudleya article mentioned above, tells me that several species can grow in close proximity in certain locations on the California coast, resulting in some natural hybrids. I may publish a photo of such a cluster on Bodega Bay, received in our recent NARGS photo contest. It's a slide so I can't post it, though. I haven't ever grown Dudleyas here because of the very wet winters, but I planted a couple of the larger species in my brother's garden near Monterey, California, where they seem to be flourishing. Jane McGary Northwestern Oregon, USA