Mary Sue, We have had good luck with many of the coastal native bulbs and continue to be surprised by the hardiness of some species that are reported to be frost tender: C. splendens, C. simulans, C. catalinae, C. argillosus, C. albus rubellus, C. pulchellus, C. amabilis, C. vestae have coped well with our frosts and even a foot of snow; we were pleasantly surprised. Dichelostemma ida maia does well for us and so do the coastal Erythroniums, Tritelias and Brodiaeas we have tried thus far. We haven't had as much success with the coastal lilies and fritillarias as we would like, but continue to doggedly experiment with them. Our biggest obstacles seems to be the high heat and sometimes 'extremely' heavy rainfall. I think the coast gets more continual, but gentler rain, whereas we get some real gully washers. Where are you and Kathy S. located? -Nancy -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mary Sue Ittner Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 12:47 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: Re: [pbs] New Member Introduction Dear Nancy, We are pleased to have you join our group and thank you for introducing yourself. Welcome. It will be quite interesting to hear your experiences. It sounds like you are a bit colder than Kathy S. but otherwise your climate sounds similar. Your rainfall is a lot like mine, a little less, but the same time of the year, but you are much colder in winter and hotter in summer. I find some of the California bulbs from hotter summers and colder winters I can still grow here, but I wonder if the opposite is true for coastal bulbs. Do they thrive or survive where you live? Mary Sue Mary Sue Ittner California's North Coast Wet mild winters with occasional frost Dry mild summers _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php