pbs Digest, Vol 32, Issue 34
Carol Ballard (Tue, 29 Oct 2019 01:55:52 PDT)
Re leftover seeds,
I live in Australia & it is not possible to import plant material without
substantial phyto sanitary measures etc as well as the import paperwork from
AQIS etc. However seeds can be imported provided they are on the accepted
AQIS list. Many of the bulb seeds that you list as not popular in USA such
as Rhodophiala species as you call them as 'common', are not easily acquired
in Australia, so many bulbs from USA Central & South America are either
unheard of in Australia or very rare. This goes for what maybe common bulb
species in Europe or South Africa. Many specie hippeastrum, lycoris, nerine,
paramongaea etc are only seen in photos not grown here as we can't get the
seeds or find reputable growers who do sell the seeds. I am not a financial
member of PBS as by the time I see the seeds lists they are already gone. I
love the information of experienced bulb growers & the willingness of you
fellow bulb nuts to share it with us novices. Thank you very much.
Ann Ballard. In full on drought country in middle of NSW, Australia.
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Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 16:23:03 -0700
From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
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One of the changes to the BX/SX I have suggested is posting a surplus
seeds list once or twice a year, which members can order for the cost of
postage, and non-members for some small cost.
It wouldn't be good to send extra seeds at random, since some people
could not grow them because they have no frost-free facility. In
addition, some would recognize them as plants they already have (more
than) enough of, and would throw them away. Believe me, after handling
the NARGS surplus seed distribution for a couple of years, I'm well
acquainted with what can end up there. However, as David Pilling
remarked, some very good things remain there, probably because nobody
knew how good they are. I was really annoyed to find some of my own bulb
seed donations in the leftovers! Now I choose to send the "special" bulb
seeds to PBS.
Jane McGary
On 10/27/2019 3:31 PM, Cynthia Mueller wrote:
In reply to this, in some cases perhaps extra ?bonus? seeds could be
included with the paid orders. Members could be urged to grow these out,
and pass them along to others, if necessary, to further increase their
interest in bulbs.
Cynthia W Mueller
On Oct 27, 2019, at 5:03 PM, David Pilling <david@davidpilling.com>
wrote:
?Hi,
Some seed exchanges have an organised surplus for which one can apply.
Through these I have got seed which I did not think I was worthy to have,
and made a success of it.
Point being that the surplus does often contain good varieties of seed.
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Hi there,
I?d really love to receive excess seed and have a chance to grow some bulbs
that I might not have a chance of getting. I?m happy to pay. Being in
Australia I can never receive bulbs, so grow most things from seed, also
because I live in a regional area, there?s not much available. Also because
of the time difference, I often miss out as things are snatched up quickly.
I actually felt quite despondent as I?ve only had very little success. I?ve
received 2 mailings and the 2nd one had only one packet of seeds. ( which I
have successfully raised)
Regards, Melanie Lewinsohn
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Massachusetts crocus (Jim McKenney)
2. Re: Massachusetts crocus (penstemon@q.com)
3. Cleaning bulbs for the BX (M Gastil-Buhl)
4. Seed/bulb box (Mizcynthia)
5. Re: Seed/bulb box (Jane McGary)
6. Elections (Arnold Trachtenberg)
7. Re: Seed/bulb box (David Pilling)
8. Re: Seed/bulb box (Cynthia Mueller)
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Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 14:50:56 +0000 (UTC)
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That is a really beautiful painting!Where can we see more of her
work??Jim McKenney
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That is a really beautiful painting!Where can we see more of her work?
There are not very many watercolors. (Watercolor pencil.)
Thirteen or fourteen are in the Hunt institute for Botanical
Documentation, Carnegie Mellon University.
Bob
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Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 09:04:39 -0700
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Subject: [pbs] Cleaning bulbs for the BX
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Hi Jane,
I apologize for not sufficiently cleaning the Stenomesson pearcei bulbs.
The attached photo taken 2 days before mailing, shows me I did not do a
good job. Until I referenced my photo I mistakenly recalled having sent
clean bulbs. I have seen others wash bulbs with water but I do not because
it worries me that may break dormancy. I promise to only send clean bulbs
in future.
My lame excuse is Albert did offer to "clean them up further". In
retrospect, I this kind of extra service may have contributed to the work
overload. More valuable than a thank you note would be if next time I send
material not requiring extra work.
Gastil
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Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 11:30:41 -0500
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I think I read during this discussion that there were a surprising number
of ?leftover? bulb seeds that had been kept back after no one asked to
receive them. It?s hard to know what is popular and what isn?t, but many
people might want to start by growing simple and easy seed first, then
building their collection as they become more skilled and more aware. I
always try to save Rhodophiala bifida, both the red and the pink strain,
because the bulbs can be expensive and because R. bifida had been said for
years to be some sort of triploid strain that can?t set seed. But
experimenting shows that it won?t self-pollinate. Planting a few pinks
cause the reds to happily set seed. Now I wonder if those seeds languished
without getting sent out, too. As long as people are taking time to
analyze
the Box, please tell us what?s not moving well, probably in the winter, so
we can plan for what we send later.
Cynthia W Mueller
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Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 11:46:36 -0700
From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
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I think Rhodophiala bifida seed may be less than popular in the SX
because the species is widely available in the US Southeast as container
plants or just shared around among gardeners. It does not thrive in the
NOrthwest, where I live, and probably isn't grown in the colder parts of
North America.
This is my first experience handling BX material directly, but I always
look at the offering lists to see if there's anything there I want.
Usually there isn't, because I don't have a heated greenhouse for South
African bulbs, nor is it humid enough in summer here to suit some of the
subtropical amaryllids that might otherwise survive the modicum of frost
in winter (they will survive, but not thrive or flower). PBS membership
is especially strong in the warmer parts of the USA, though. Some of the
unpopularity of certain donated items may result from their being known
as invasive (so there's plenty of material to donate!).
I admit a biased viewpoint, but I do encourage people to donate seed and
bulbs of winter-hardy species.
Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon
On 10/27/2019 9:30 AM, Mizcynthia wrote:
I think I read during this discussion that there were a surprising
number of ?leftover? bulb seeds that had been kept back after no one asked
to receive them. It?s hard to know what is popular and what isn?t, but
many
people might want to start by growing simple and easy seed first, then
building their collection as they become more skilled and more aware. I
always try to save Rhodophiala bifida, both the red and the pink strain,
because the bulbs can be expensive and because R. bifida had been said for
years to be some sort of triploid strain that can?t set seed. But
experimenting shows that it won?t self-pollinate. Planting a few pinks
cause the reds to happily set seed. Now I wonder if those seeds languished
without getting sent out, too. As long as people are taking time to
analyze
the Box, please tell us what?s not moving well, probably in the winter, so
we can plan for what we send later.
Cynthia W Mueller
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Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 19:08:08 +0000 (UTC)
From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold140@verizon.net>
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As per the PBS bylaws we are to hold an election in November of? odd
numbered? years.
This November we are scheduled to hold elections for four positions on the
Board.
PresidentVice PresidentSecretaryTreasurer.
All other Board positions are appointed by the ? Board.
Also as per bylaws we are to form a nominating committee to identify
current board members interested in continuing their service and also
entertain other PBS members who have interest in being nominated for Board
positions.
The current Board will vote on the slate of candidates.
I have volunteered to be? the ? chair? the nominating committee and was
approved by the Board vote and? have identified three current PBS members
who are wiling to serve on the committee.
Please submit to me at? Arnold140@verizon.net? letters of interest in
being nominating to run for a board seat.
Please identify which position you express interest in.
Please reply to my email address and I will distribute the Nominating
committee.
I have copied the relevant Bylaws addressing the election below.
Thank you
ArnoldChair Nominating Committee, PBS
Section 1. The Board shall be composed of between seven(7) and eleven (11)
members, comprised of Elected Directors and AppointedDirectors, the number
to be established by Resolution.?Section 2. Elected Directors are selected
through anominating process and Appointed Directors are selected by the
Board to servein a Position of Responsibility in service to the
Society.?Section 3. There is no limit on the number of terms aDirector may
serve on the Board.?Section 4. Elections will be held every two years
inNovember of each odd numbered year for Elected Directors. ?Section 5. A
Nominating Committee appointed by thePresident and confirmed by the Board
will propose candidates to the Board forElected Directors.
Section 6. The Nominating Committee shall present itsrecommendations for
Elected Directors to the full Board at least 15 days priorto the November
meeting referenced in Article VI, Section 3.
Section 7. New Directors will be included in all communications of
theBoard immediately following their election or appointment.
Section 8. Appointed Directors will become members of theBoard immediately
upon confirmation of their appointment by the Board or on thedate
specified
in the Board confirmation action. ?Section 9. Directors shall be members
of
the organizationand shall maintain full membership in the organization
through their term ofservice.?Section 10. A vacancyor vacancies on the
Board shall be deemed to exist on the occurrence of thefollowing: (i) the
death, resignation, or removal of any Director; (ii)whenever the number of
authorized Directors is increased; (iii) the failure ofthe Board, at any
meeting at which any Director or Directors are to be elected,to elect the
full authorized number of Directors?Section 11. If aDirector cannot or
does
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meetings, the Board shall request that the president orvice president
discuss the situation with the individual. ?Section 12. The Boardmay by
resolution declare vacant the office of a Dire
ctor who has been declaredof unsound mind by an order of court, or
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office, may removeany Director without cause at any regular or special
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asprovided in this paragraph, any director may resign effective upon
givingwritten notice to the president, the secretary, or the Board of
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of
theresignation. If the resignation is effective at a future time, a
successor maybe designated to take office when the resignation becomes
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whether or not the number ofdirectors then in office is less than a
quorum,
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authorized number ofdirectors shall have the effect of removing any
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Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 21:49:12 +0000
From: David Pilling <david@davidpilling.com>
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Hi,
Some seed exchanges have an organised surplus for which one can apply.
Through these I have got seed which I did not think I was worthy to
have, and made a success of it.
Point being that the surplus does often contain good varieties of seed.
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http://www.davidpilling.com/
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Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 22:31:04 +0000
From: Cynthia Mueller <cynthiasbulbs@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [pbs] Seed/bulb box
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In reply to this, in some cases perhaps extra ?bonus? seeds could be
included with the paid orders. Members could be urged to grow these out,
and pass them along to others, if necessary, to further increase their
interest in bulbs.
Cynthia W Mueller
On Oct 27, 2019, at 5:03 PM, David Pilling <david@davidpilling.com>
wrote:
?Hi,
Some seed exchanges have an organised surplus for which one can apply.
Through these I have got seed which I did not think I was worthy to have,
and made a success of it.
Point being that the surplus does often contain good varieties of seed.
--
David Pilling
http://www.davidpilling.com/
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