Re leftover seeds, I live in Australia & it is not possible to import plant material without substantial phyto sanitary measures etc as well as the import paperwork from AQIS etc. However seeds can be imported provided they are on the accepted AQIS list. Many of the bulb seeds that you list as not popular in USA such as Rhodophiala species as you call them as 'common', are not easily acquired in Australia, so many bulbs from USA Central & South America are either unheard of in Australia or very rare. This goes for what maybe common bulb species in Europe or South Africa. Many specie hippeastrum, lycoris, nerine, paramongaea etc are only seen in photos not grown here as we can't get the seeds or find reputable growers who do sell the seeds. I am not a financial member of PBS as by the time I see the seeds lists they are already gone. I love the information of experienced bulb growers & the willingness of you fellow bulb nuts to share it with us novices. Thank you very much. Ann Ballard. In full on drought country in middle of NSW, Australia. -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 11:00 PM To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 32, Issue 34 Send pbs mailing list submissions to pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net You can reach the person managing the list at pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php Today's Topics: 1. Re: Seed/bulb box (Jane McGary) 2. Re: pbs Digest, Vol 32, Issue 33 (Melanie Lewinsohn) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 16:23:03 -0700 From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Subject: Re: [pbs] Seed/bulb box Message-ID: <683d3ab1-5c7c-a7b9-eb9b-efc7ce11f502@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed One of the changes to the BX/SX I have suggested is posting a surplus seeds list once or twice a year, which members can order for the cost of postage, and non-members for some small cost. It wouldn't be good to send extra seeds at random, since some people could not grow them because they have no frost-free facility. In addition, some would recognize them as plants they already have (more than) enough of, and would throw them away. Believe me, after handling the NARGS surplus seed distribution for a couple of years, I'm well acquainted with what can end up there. However, as David Pilling remarked, some very good things remain there, probably because nobody knew how good they are. I was really annoyed to find some of my own bulb seed donations in the leftovers! Now I choose to send the "special" bulb seeds to PBS. Jane McGary On 10/27/2019 3:31 PM, Cynthia Mueller wrote: > In reply to this, in some cases perhaps extra ?bonus? seeds could be included with the paid orders. Members could be urged to grow these out, and pass them along to others, if necessary, to further increase their interest in bulbs. > > Cynthia W Mueller > >> On Oct 27, 2019, at 5:03 PM, David Pilling <david@davidpilling.com> wrote: >> >> ?Hi, >> >> Some seed exchanges have an organised surplus for which one can apply. Through these I have got seed which I did not think I was worthy to have, and made a success of it. >> >> Point being that the surplus does often contain good varieties of seed. >> >> -- >> David Pilling >> http://www.davidpilling.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 17:29:59 +1100 From: Melanie Lewinsohn <melaniescurtainstudio@gmail.com> To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Subject: Re: [pbs] pbs Digest, Vol 32, Issue 33 Message-ID: <CA+8JsnGrqoKvEXexgWeE26RKx6r1vt2r6A1C1dWX3GfbMsrP1g@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi there, I?d really love to receive excess seed and have a chance to grow some bulbs that I might not have a chance of getting. I?m happy to pay. Being in Australia I can never receive bulbs, so grow most things from seed, also because I live in a regional area, there?s not much available. Also because of the time difference, I often miss out as things are snatched up quickly. I actually felt quite despondent as I?ve only had very little success. I?ve received 2 mailings and the 2nd one had only one packet of seeds. ( which I have successfully raised) Regards, Melanie Lewinsohn On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 9:31 am, <pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Massachusetts crocus (Jim McKenney) > 2. Re: Massachusetts crocus (penstemon@q.com) > 3. Cleaning bulbs for the BX (M Gastil-Buhl) > 4. Seed/bulb box (Mizcynthia) > 5. Re: Seed/bulb box (Jane McGary) > 6. Elections (Arnold Trachtenberg) > 7. Re: Seed/bulb box (David Pilling) > 8. Re: Seed/bulb box (Cynthia Mueller) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 14:50:56 +0000 (UTC) > From: Jim McKenney <jamesamckenney@verizon.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Massachusetts crocus > Message-ID: <277592830.1019116.1572187856879@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > That is a really beautiful painting!Where can we see more of her > work??Jim McKenney > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 09:25:38 -0600 > From: <penstemon@q.com> > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Massachusetts crocus > Message-ID: <028601d58cda$c97784b0$5c668e10$@q.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > That is a really beautiful painting!Where can we see more of her work? > > There are not very many watercolors. (Watercolor pencil.) > Thirteen or fourteen are in the Hunt institute for Botanical > Documentation, Carnegie Mellon University. > > > Bob > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 09:04:39 -0700 > From: M Gastil-Buhl <gastil.buhl@gmail.com> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: [pbs] Cleaning bulbs for the BX > Message-ID: > <CALGksbDs1M=E2P6g-Nt_= > 8s1bOnTU7qr-4qhdG-DcCc5na1VVg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Jane, > > I apologize for not sufficiently cleaning the Stenomesson pearcei bulbs. > The attached photo taken 2 days before mailing, shows me I did not do a > good job. Until I referenced my photo I mistakenly recalled having sent > clean bulbs. I have seen others wash bulbs with water but I do not because > it worries me that may break dormancy. I promise to only send clean bulbs > in future. > > My lame excuse is Albert did offer to "clean them up further". In > retrospect, I this kind of extra service may have contributed to the work > overload. More valuable than a thank you note would be if next time I send > material not requiring extra work. > > Gastil > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Stenomesson_pearcei_mgb7_large_res.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 409144 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… 921/attachment.jpg > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 11:30:41 -0500 > From: Mizcynthia <mizcynthia@gmail.com> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: [pbs] Seed/bulb box > Message-ID: <DAFAE3BA-30A5-4F3D-A66A-04A696939C8B@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I think I read during this discussion that there were a surprising number > of ?leftover? bulb seeds that had been kept back after no one asked to > receive them. It?s hard to know what is popular and what isn?t, but many > people might want to start by growing simple and easy seed first, then > building their collection as they become more skilled and more aware. I > always try to save Rhodophiala bifida, both the red and the pink strain, > because the bulbs can be expensive and because R. bifida had been said for > years to be some sort of triploid strain that can?t set seed. But > experimenting shows that it won?t self-pollinate. Planting a few pinks > cause the reds to happily set seed. Now I wonder if those seeds languished > without getting sent out, too. As long as people are taking time to analyze > the Box, please tell us what?s not moving well, probably in the winter, so > we can plan for what we send later. > > Cynthia W Mueller > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 11:46:36 -0700 > From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: Re: [pbs] Seed/bulb box > Message-ID: <8714a06b-0e63-ce66-e547-76ce2888b64c@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I think Rhodophiala bifida seed may be less than popular in the SX > because the species is widely available in the US Southeast as container > plants or just shared around among gardeners. It does not thrive in the > NOrthwest, where I live, and probably isn't grown in the colder parts of > North America. > > This is my first experience handling BX material directly, but I always > look at the offering lists to see if there's anything there I want. > Usually there isn't, because I don't have a heated greenhouse for South > African bulbs, nor is it humid enough in summer here to suit some of the > subtropical amaryllids that might otherwise survive the modicum of frost > in winter (they will survive, but not thrive or flower). PBS membership > is especially strong in the warmer parts of the USA, though. Some of the > unpopularity of certain donated items may result from their being known > as invasive (so there's plenty of material to donate!). > > I admit a biased viewpoint, but I do encourage people to donate seed and > bulbs of winter-hardy species. > > Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon > > On 10/27/2019 9:30 AM, Mizcynthia wrote: > > I think I read during this discussion that there were a surprising > number of ?leftover? bulb seeds that had been kept back after no one asked > to receive them. It?s hard to know what is popular and what isn?t, but many > people might want to start by growing simple and easy seed first, then > building their collection as they become more skilled and more aware. I > always try to save Rhodophiala bifida, both the red and the pink strain, > because the bulbs can be expensive and because R. bifida had been said for > years to be some sort of triploid strain that can?t set seed. But > experimenting shows that it won?t self-pollinate. Planting a few pinks > cause the reds to happily set seed. Now I wonder if those seeds languished > without getting sent out, too. As long as people are taking time to analyze > the Box, please tell us what?s not moving well, probably in the winter, so > we can plan for what we send later. > > > > Cynthia W Mueller > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 19:08:08 +0000 (UTC) > From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold140@verizon.net> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: [pbs] Elections > Message-ID: <939614939.2909024.1572203288784@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > As per the PBS bylaws we are to hold an election in November of? odd > numbered? years. > This November we are scheduled to hold elections for four positions on the > Board. > PresidentVice PresidentSecretaryTreasurer. > All other Board positions are appointed by the ? Board. > > Also as per bylaws we are to form a nominating committee to identify > current board members interested in continuing their service and also > entertain other PBS members who have interest in being nominated for Board > positions. > The current Board will vote on the slate of candidates. > > I have volunteered to be? the ? chair? the nominating committee and was > approved by the Board vote and? have identified three current PBS members > who are wiling to serve on the committee. > Please submit to me at? Arnold140@verizon.net? letters of interest in > being nominating to run for a board seat. > Please identify which position you express interest in. > Please reply to my email address and I will distribute the Nominating > committee. > I have copied the relevant Bylaws addressing the election below. > Thank you > > ArnoldChair Nominating Committee, PBS > > > > > > Section 1. The Board shall be composed of between seven(7) and eleven (11) > members, comprised of Elected Directors and AppointedDirectors, the number > to be established by Resolution.?Section 2. Elected Directors are selected > through anominating process and Appointed Directors are selected by the > Board to servein a Position of Responsibility in service to the > Society.?Section 3. There is no limit on the number of terms aDirector may > serve on the Board.?Section 4. Elections will be held every two years > inNovember of each odd numbered year for Elected Directors. ?Section 5. A > Nominating Committee appointed by thePresident and confirmed by the Board > will propose candidates to the Board forElected Directors. > > Section 6. The Nominating Committee shall present itsrecommendations for > Elected Directors to the full Board at least 15 days priorto the November > meeting referenced in Article VI, Section 3. > Section 7. New Directors will be included in all communications of > theBoard immediately following their election or appointment. > > Section 8. Appointed Directors will become members of theBoard immediately > upon confirmation of their appointment by the Board or on thedate specified > in the Board confirmation action. ?Section 9. Directors shall be members of > the organizationand shall maintain full membership in the organization > through their term ofservice.?Section 10. A vacancyor vacancies on the > Board shall be deemed to exist on the occurrence of thefollowing: (i) the > death, resignation, or removal of any Director; (ii)whenever the number of > authorized Directors is increased; (iii) the failure ofthe Board, at any > meeting at which any Director or Directors are to be elected,to elect the > full authorized number of Directors?Section 11. If aDirector cannot or does > not perform his or her responsibilities includingattendance at Board > meetings, the Board shall request that the president orvice president > discuss the situation with the individual. ?Section 12. The Boardmay by > resolution declare vacant the office of a Dire > ctor who has been declaredof unsound mind by an order of court, or > convicted of a felony, or found byfinal order or judgment of any court to > have breached a duty under CaliforniaNonprofit Corporation Law. ?Section > 13. The Board,by affirmative vote of a majority of the Directors then in > office, may removeany Director without cause at any regular or special > meeting; provided that theDirector to be removed has been notified in > writing in that such action wouldbe considered at the meeting and provided > a reasonable opportunity toparticipate in the meeting.?Section 14. Except > asprovided in this paragraph, any director may resign effective upon > givingwritten notice to the president, the secretary, or the Board of > Directors,unless the notice specifies a later time for the effectiveness of > theresignation. If the resignation is effective at a future time, a > successor maybe designated to take office when the resignation becomes > effective. Unless theCalifornia Attorney General is first notified > , no director may resign when thecorporation would then be left without a > duly elected director in charge of itsaffairs.?Section 15. Vacancies on the > Board may be filled by vote ofa majority of the directors then in office, > whether or not the number ofdirectors then in office is less than a quorum, > or by vote of a sole remainingdirector. ?Section 16. No reduction of the > authorized number ofdirectors shall have the effect of removing any > director before that director'sterm of office expires.? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 21:49:12 +0000 > From: David Pilling <david@davidpilling.com> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: Re: [pbs] Seed/bulb box > Message-ID: <086b2e7c-4ffa-300b-0bec-53c3fcf01dc5@davidpilling.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi, > > Some seed exchanges have an organised surplus for which one can apply. > Through these I have got seed which I did not think I was worthy to > have, and made a success of it. > > Point being that the surplus does often contain good varieties of seed. > > -- > David Pilling > http://www.davidpilling.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 22:31:04 +0000 > From: Cynthia Mueller <cynthiasbulbs@hotmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Seed/bulb box > Message-ID: > < > SN4PR0401MB3599285BA1C14FCF5EB63BCAB6670@SN4PR0401MB3599.namprd04.prod.outlo ok.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > In reply to this, in some cases perhaps extra ?bonus? seeds could be > included with the paid orders. Members could be urged to grow these out, > and pass them along to others, if necessary, to further increase their > interest in bulbs. > > Cynthia W Mueller > > > On Oct 27, 2019, at 5:03 PM, David Pilling <david@davidpilling.com> > wrote: > > > > ?Hi, > > > > Some seed exchanges have an organised surplus for which one can apply. > Through these I have got seed which I did not think I was worthy to have, > and made a success of it. > > > > Point being that the surplus does often contain good varieties of seed. > > > > -- > > David Pilling > > http://www.davidpilling.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 32, Issue 33 > *********************************** > ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… ------------------------------ End of pbs Digest, Vol 32, Issue 34 *********************************** -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com/ _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…