_____ From: DaveKarn@aol.com [mailto:DaveKarn@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 12:30 AM To: dells@voicenet.com Subject: Daffodils in the current BX Hello Dell ~ While my email address is DaveKarn, my genuine, real assigned name is Dave Karnstedt! Thanks for the "noted hybridizer" compliment! Actually, I have done very little miniature hybridizing as fertile froms are difficult to find. Most of those in existence have resulted from 2n species x 4n hybrid crosses and are triploid and, thus, infertile. Thus, my major breeding efforts have been concentrated within what are known as "standard" daffodils. Incidentally, 'Elvira' is a tazetta type and is, technically, 8W-YYO. (Jonquils are technically in RHS Division 7.) 'Elvira' is the form from which the far better known 'Cheerfulness' originally sported. Either of them are good growers producing lots of flowers. Best, Dave Karnstedt Silverton, OR